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Interview with CAPT Ann Bernatitus, NC, USN, (Ret.), World War II nurse, 25 January 
1994, Exeter, PA. Interviewed by Jan K. Herman, Historian, Bureau of Medicine and 

Were you born in Pennsylvania? 

I was bom in this house. This is the old family homestead. Mother and Dad built it. I 
think it was built about 1905. Nobody has lived here but the Bernatitus family. 

When did you decide you wanted to be a nurse? 

I always wanted to be a nurse. There was nothing else for girls to do in those days but be 
a school teacher or a nurse. My parents couldn't afford to send me to college. My school friend, 
whose mother was a widow, told my mother, who was also a widow, to let me go for training. 
My mother then decided to let me go for training locally. That girl went to New York for her 

Where did you go? 

I trained at what was then the Wyoming Valley Homeopathic Hospital in Wilkes-Barre. 
While I was in training, someone from the Army came to Mercy Hospital to talk about military 
nursing and we had to go. That was where I got the idea of the Navy. In those days, things were 
pretty bad. 

That was during the Depression. 

Right. There were no jobs for nurses. If you were one of the old timers, maybe. They had 
private duty nurses in those days but only the rich could afford them. I wasn't thinking about 
going in the service at that time. It wasn't until after I graduated. I had no job. I then decided to 
take a post-graduate course in operating room technique and management at the University of 
Pennsylvania Graduate Hospital in Philadelphia at 19th and Lombard. I applied and was accepted 
for a 6-month course. 

Even after I finished that, there were still no jobs. First of all, I think I was too young at 
that time to get a job as a supervisor of an operating room. I stayed on at Penn and did general 
duty for $45 a month and my board. 

When was that? 

I went in training in '3 1 and I graduated in '34 but, as I said, I stayed on. I saw an ad in 
one of the nursing magazines that said they would find you a job so I applied. One day I got a 
telegram saying there was an opening for a staff nurse, not a supervisor, but a staff nurse in the 
operating room at the New Rochelle hospital in New York for $80 a month and board. I grabbed 
it. So I went to New Rochelle and worked in the operating room there rather than being a staff 
nurse. I was doing what I had trained for. 

After so many months, I realized I would have to get New York registration to be able to 
stay on there. At that time, I got a letter from my former director of nurses at Wyoming Valley 
saying she would give me a job as an operating room supervisor at the Nanticoke State Hospital 
in the area. But they would only pay me $70 a month. But I took it mainly because my mother 


felt better that I was close to home and not out in the big city. The superintendent who gave me 
the job had been an ex-Army nurse back during World War I. 

I think at that time I had written for an application to join the Navy Nurse Corps. For the 
longest time, I didn't hear from them. So I wrote a second time and finally got an application 
form from the Bureau [of Medicine and Surgery]. I had to go to Philadelphia for a physical. 

Did you have to take some kind of examination? 

No. This was in '36. What was happening after World War I, like always, is like we're 
doing right now, cut, cut, cut. Somewhere along the line, I had heard that there were only 325 
nurses in the Nurse Corps. Some had resigned after World War I and some had been furloughed. 
They were slowly calling them back. And they were also accepting new applicants. It seems that I 
went for the physical exam on the first of September, and on the 25th I was on my way to the 
Naval hospital in Chelsea, MA. 

How did the Navy brand of nursing differ from what you had experienced before? 

First of all, I had been working in the operating room which meant my job was different 
from a regular staff nurse that was out taking care of patients. In those days, when you joined the 
Navy, you were on 6 month's probation. That was the stipulation. For those first 6 months, you 
wore the uniform and hat you graduated with and had in civilian life. They put you on a ward 
with an older nurse and you just learned the language and the routine. 

Of course, that was the era before Navy nurses even had ranks. You were probably 
addressed as Miss Bernatitus. 

Right. In those days we were neither fish nor fowl. We were not officers and we were not 
enlisted. We were in between. We did not get the pay of an officer but we got more than the 

So there you were at Chelsea, a provisional nurse. How long were you there? 

I was there the first 6 months. Then the Navy would decide whether to keep you or throw 
you out. New nurses were coming into the Corps roughly every 2 to 4 weeks. I found myself 
supervising the corpsmen and keeping the books. Every morning you went on duty and had to 
count all the blankets, the thermometers. I think we had to count the glasses. And then you had to 
scrub the floors. You had to keep the curtains at the windows just so. 

They had inspections? 

Only once a week on Friday when the captain and chief nurse would come through. When 
the chief nurse visited the ward every morning, you had to accompany her, as the nurse on the 
ward. You stopped at every bed to tell her what was wrong with the patient and how he was 
getting along. Maybe what medications he was getting. Not like now. 

And you were responsible for so many corpsmen? 

Yes, so many corpsmen who were assigned to that ward. You taught them how to do 
things and saw that they did them. There were times you actually did nursing—took care of a 
patient. If there was a critically ill patient, you took care of him yourself. 


How long were you at Chelsea? 

Exactly 2 years. If you were the youngest nurse on duty, you took turns doing morning 
duty and afternoon duty, and then we all took turns doing night duty. It was the older nurses that 
got the assignment for straight morning duty, no afternoon duty. We worked from 8 to 3, and the 
afternoon nurses worked from 3 to 10. The night nurse came on at 1 1 and stayed until 7 or 8 the 
next morning. 

All of a sudden, we had nurses assigned to the linen room. You had to check it out to see 
if it was all there and what condition it was in. There was a seamstress to mend it if necessary. 
And, by golly, I got assigned to this job as straight morning duty. A lot of the older ones didn't 
know what that was all about. 

That was considered to be a plum assignment? 

Oh, sure. Then they decided to open some World War I buildings. They had no 
dispensary. They had a dispensary in the Navy Yard at Charlestown but they didn't have a 
hospital for dependents. So they decided to open a hospital for dependents but did so before it 
was really set up. Then they hired some civilian nurses to come in and run it. That turned out to 
be a disaster. The nurses couldn't understand the Navy way of doing things. Finally, one day I 
went down for lunch and on the bulletin board was a note from the chief nurse. It said, "Miss 
Bernatitus, see me in my suite." I thought, "What did I do now?" I went in and found that they 
had decided to put a Navy nurse in charge of the other nurses in the dependent hospital and I was 
it. I looked at her and said, "I don't know an5l;hing about obstetrics. I'm an operating room nurse." 
She said, "Tomorrow morning you go over there." So I did. They put me in charge of the two 
floors. The lower floor was an outpatient clinic and an older nurse was assigned there. There was 
a death in her family and she had to go on emergency leave and never came back. So I ended up 
with the first floor too. And that's how I ended up with three floors. 

After that I got orders to go to Annapolis. 

When was that? 

In 1938. The Navy was a real nice place in those days. The nurses lived separately; they 
had their own mess. You were served; the food was always good. Life was good. 

Was it as good when you got to Annapolis? 

Yes. Annapolis was a smaller station. In Chelsea, the building we were quartered in was 
at least 100 years old. The rooms were enormous with big, high ceilings and big windows. At 
Annapolis, we all had individual rooms. The place was beautiful. We could date the midshipmen. 
Some midshipmen would get their eye on you and then you were "dragged" to the hops at the 
Academy. You had to walk from the nurse's quarters across the drill field to get to the dancing 
place. It was very nice. You learned a lot. I was exposed to things I had never been exposed to 
before. The older nurses would feel sorry for you and take you places. It was such a nice, close 
group all the time. You knew everybody in the house. 

How long were you there? 


I was there maybe 2 years. I remember at that time the Nurse Corps would send nurses to 
George Washington University for a course in dietetics. And they'd send nurses elsewhere for a 
course in physiotherapy. At that time they were looking for nurses to sign up for these courses. 
The announcements were on the bulletin board. At that time I was relieving in the diet kitchen. 
The chief nurse kept asking me whether I wanted to go to dietetic school. I had filled out the 
form we used to get every year asking us where we wanted to go next. I had the Philippines 
down. "Suppose I go to dietetic school and there was an opening in the Philippines, I wouldn't get 
it." So I didn't sign up and sure enough, I got the Philippines. 

How did you get there? 

I didn't have much of a vacation. I had to go to Norfolk, VA, to the hospital there to meet 
the other nurse who was going with me, Mary Chapman, and get the ship. We went over on the 
Chaumont (AP-5). I think I took an overnight ferry from Baltimore to Norfolk and met Mary 
there. We stopped at Guantanamo Bay and then through the [Panama] Canal. 
I wasn't a sailor and didn't enjoy the trip. I was seasick all the time. 

Did you stop at Pearl Harbor? 

Yes. We had marines aboard they were taking to Midway, where they went ashore. Then 
we went on to Guam and arrived in the Philippines in July 1940. 

What was your impression of the Philippines? 

I had no idea what the Philippines looked like; I hadn't read up on it or anything. Of 
course, somebody met us at the dock to take us to Canacao. All I can remember is the smell of 
copra which seemed to be everywhere. The nipa huts, the kids running around naked. The houses 
on stilts, the carabao. But life was very good out there too. We went to work at 8 o'clock. You 
went to lunch and then didn't have to go back on duty. 

You had the afternoon off? 

Yes, because only one nurse had to go back to supervise. We had golf, bicycling, 
swimming. You could go to the markets if you wanted to. For $5 a month you took your shoes, 
put them outside the door, and the houseboys would take them downstairs, polish them up, and 
when we got back they would be sitting by your door. It was the same with the women who did 
your laundry. On your way to work you dropped it off in the washroom and when you returned 
there it was all pressed for you. Just before war was declared, we had one shop across from the 
Army and Navy Club run by a Jewish woman originally from Philadelphia named Rosie. Nothing 
was on display. She would say, "I've got just the thing for you. You might go in to buy a pair of 
stockings and you would come home with an evening dress. She would serve you a drink first. 
Anyway, I bought this two-piece slacks suit. Rosie was taken prisoner and I don't know how 
many years later, I get a bill from Rosie. Apparently, she had kept her records and the bill came 
from Philadelphia. 

You probably had signed a chit for that dress. 

Sure. That's all you ever did. 


Did you have individual rooms there? 

Yes. Did Dorothy [Still Danner] or Bertha [Evans St. Pierre] tell you how we found out 
that the war had started? 

Bertha said that her boy friend at Cavite phoned her. 

Ed. Yes. He called her around 6 o'clock in the morning. The telephone was downstairs on 
the first floor. And she came running up the steps and into my room. "Ann, war's been declared." 

Even before you got to the Philippines, had you been hearing anything about war? 

I don't recall when we were going out. But one thing happened that made us aware that 
something was cooking. Mary Chapman was going to get married and had put in her resignation. 
When the Chaumont would come in, somebody already had their orders to go back but the ship 
always brought someone out as a replacement. The chief nurse Miss [Laura] Cobb had us at a 
meeting and said, "I would suggest that anything you have, you pack up and ship back. Mary 
Chapman was going to be on that boat so I packed up a Hong Kong chest that someone had 
picked up for me and all the other things I had bought from the Chinaman who used to come to 
the nurse's quarters. He came with his valises packed with linens and things and he would spread 
them on the floor. And he'd tell us to just sign the chit. You wouldn't have to pay for the things 
right then. So I packed all these things up and sent them with Mary Chapman's things. 

Did the stuff go out with the Chaumonti 

But Mary Chapman didn't. 

No. I'll tell you why she didn't. When we heard about Pearl Harbor, they started 
sandbagging around the hospital because it wasn't on a solid foundation, just on these comer 
posts that held it up. And it was a three-story building. They assigned us so many hours duty and 
then somebody would come and relieve us. I remember I was coming off duty some time in the 
early morning hours when the siren went off that the planes were coming to bomb Nichols Field. 
When the war was declared all the patients who could go back to duty were sent back to duty. 
They sent the Filipinos home. Anybody who couldn't be moved ended up under the hospital. 

They put them under the hospital, protected by sandbags? 

Yes. I stayed there, I don't remember how long because I had started to go over to the 
nurse's quarters already. The captain then decided to evacuate the patients to Sternberg hospital 
in Manila. He decided that two nurses and two corpsmen had to accompany them. 

Were the patients transported by ambulance? 

I don't recall, but we went by car. Laura Cobb lined us up in the living room asking for 
volunteers to go. First thing you know, Mary Chapman volunteered. There were no other 
volunteers. I don't remember how many times she said, "Who's going to volunteer?" Nobody 
would. So, I got real bright and said, "Why don't you make us draw straws? Then no one can ever 


come back at you and say, "If you hadn't made me do this, this wouldn't have happened." Laura 
thought that was a good idea. So she went out to the other room and got long applicator sticks 
with cotton on the end and held them in her hands like this. And she went over to Goldia 
O'Haver. Goldia then pulled one out. It was long so she knew she didn't have to go. She came to 
me and I pulled the short one. So I had to go. 

That afternoon they took us to the nurse's quarters at Sternberg. You wouldn't believe it. 
When those nurses came off duty, they always served tea and those nurses were having tea. War 
had been declared and they were having tea. 

Was that on the 9th? 

Yes. It must have been. It was the day after the war began that the decision was made to 
evacuate the patients, (referring to a document) Those 68 enlisted men and veterans who were 
ambulatory went back to their ships on December 8. Nichols Field was bombed on the 9th. The 
remaining patients were transferred to Army Sternberg Hospital to be accompanied by two 
corpsmen and two nurses. 

When we got to Sternberg they had us in some kind of a barracks for the Navy patients. 
Mary Chapman, who was senior to me, took morning duty and I had to take night duty. I have it 
here (again referring to document). We were located in one of the barracks recently vacated by 
the Philippine Scouts. On December 10, the Japanese bombed the Navy Yard at Cavite on 
Sangley point. 

You were at Sternberg while all that was going on. 

Yes. We were out in the courtyard of the nurses' quarters watching all this. There were 
fox holes dug there. It says here, (referring to the document) they were bombed by approximately 
125 planes flying at 20,000 feet. The patients who were brought in were given first aid at the 
Navy Hospital and transferred to Sternberg immediately. On the 1 1th of December medical 
personnel at Canacao evacuated and reported to Sternberg in Manila. Within 2 or 3 days of 
reporting, CAPT [ ] Davis received orders to establish a temporary hospital at Balintawok. That 
was just outside Manila. One half of the Navy medical personnel went with the group. I think 
that was Laura Cobb, Margaret Nash, Eldene Paige, Bertha Evans, Edwina Todd, and Helen 

You were still at Sternberg at this time? 

Yes. This was where we separated, (again referring to document) Those remaining were 
divided into teams and assigned to units being set up in other areas of Manila. Dorothy Still, 
Susie Pitcher, and Edwina Todd went to the Jai Lai Club. Mary Chapman and Mary Harrington 
went to Holy Ghost. Dorothy Still and I originally were to go to Santa Scholastica with Dr. Carey 
Smith and Dr. Claude Fraley and Corpsmen Jones and Cary. 

Santa Scholastica College was a girl's school located in the vicinity of the Philippine 
General Hospital. We two nurses and the two corpsmen were on the bus just about to leave when 
someone came aboard and told Dorothy that she was being reassigned to Jai Lai. 

So, the two of you were on the bus with the doctors and corpsmen. 



And someone came on the bus and told her that she should report to the Jai Lai 



So, you were now the only nurse on the bus with the two doctors and two corpsmen? 

Yes. When we got to the school [Santa Scholastica] we found other medical personnel 
were there already setting up the hospital unit. Our job was to set up the emergency operating 
room facility. I don't recall our living quarters, but apparently they were adequate. Since we were 
the only Navy personnel, we formed a kind of clique, hi the evenings we got together and sat out 
on the lawn. 

About this time, General MacArthur declared Manila an open city. 

That's when all this happened. And why did I get picked to go to Bataan? Only for one 
reason. When he declared Manila an open city, they were sending surgeons out to Bataan. They 
weren't picking general medical men. The fact that I had been Dr. Smith's ward nurse and I had 
the background in operating room, he picked me. 

It all boils down to this. Since you had worked for Carey Smith as a surgical nurse, 
he knew you, he had worked with you. And since he was going, you were the logical choice. 


Bertha Evans told me that everyone at these remote locations in Manila were 
awaiting orders and there were no orders. There was so much confusion. The Army 
marched their patients down and put them on a hospital ship. As Bertha recalled, "What 
about the Navy patients? What's supposed to happen to them?" Nothing happened. They 
sat there. Is that how you remember it? 

I wasn't with them. That was the whole trouble, (referring to her document) On December 
22, Dr. Smith informed me about 7 p.m. that Manila was to be declared an open city and that 
surgical units were selected to go to Bataan on Christmas Eve. Our unit was included. 

So you and Dr. Carey Smith and Dr. Fraley, Jones, and Carey, as part of that unit, 
were to go to Bataan. 


Dr. Smith told you that you had been selected. Who gave him the orders? 

Whoever was in charge of Santa Scholastica. The Army was there so I don't know, 
(referring to document) It says here that on the 24th we left at 6 a.m. and were taken to Jai Lai, 
where the convoy was to form to go to Bataan. Being alone, I sat on the curb to get out of the 
way, when one of the Navy nurses, Dorothy Still, assigned to Jai Lai, came out and found me. 
She wanted to know what I was doing there. I told her I was going to Bataan. She asked me 
where it was and I told her I had never heard of it until 2 days ago. At that time, I recall walking 


into the Jai Lai building to see how they had set up approximately 100 beds on the porch. This is 
in Dr. Davis' diary. It was about this time that Dr. Davis at the Philippine Union College in 
Balintawok received orders to evacuate the patients and personnel to Santa Scholastica. 
According to a newspaper article on 3/17/46 by CAPT [Lea] Sartin, approximately 160 Navy and 
100 Army patients were treated and facilities were prepared for 700. CAPT Davis ordered the 
Canacao unit to stay together and serve until further orders came. New orders never came. 

What about the convoy to Bataan? 
It formed up at Jai Lai. 

Did you see the other nurses? 

No. Just Dorothy. I was waiting on the curb to get on the bus to go to Bataan. 
So you never saw any of them until after the war? 

Yes. That's right. Anyway, the convoy took off for Bataan. There were 24 Army nurses, 
25 Filipino nurses, and me, the 1 Navy nurse. As we passed through the villages, the natives 
came out and cheered us giving us the "V" for victory sign. Many times during the trip the bus 
would have to stop and we would dive into gutters along the roadside because the Japanese 
planes were overhead. Late that afternoon we arrived at Camp Limay, Hospital Number 1. There 
were 25 wooden, one- story buildings, 15 of them wards. A water pipe outside each ward 
provided water. The utility room for the bedpans and what have you was the back porch. The 
buildings were in a rectangle with the operating room building at the upper end with a generator 
and water towers alongside. At the farther end was the building housing the nurses' quarters and 
the officer's mess hall. The remaining buildings were along each side. Behind the buildings on 
the left side of the beach was a warehouse in which were stored the equipment and supplies for 
the hospital. In the center of this area was grass and trees and foxholes dug everywhere. We were 
assigned two to a room. My roommate was Arlene Ellen Francis. The first few days I was 
assigned ward duty but this was changed and I was reassigned to the operating room. You know, 
they really left me alone. I only worked when Dr. Smith worked. He was the one who took care 
of me. The Army nurses didn't bother me. I was a member of Dr. Smith's team. 

Let me go on. (continues reading from document) Everyone was involved in setting up 
the hospital. All the supplies and equipment were crated and stored in the warehouse on the 
beach. The crates were neither marked nor stored as units so the Navy crates had to be opened 
before you found the items for your particular unit. I recall a crate being opened and in it were 
surgical gowns wrapped in newspapers dated 1917. 

The operating room was a long narrow building with approximately seven or eight tables 
set up in the center. Along the window openings were the cabinets with supplies. There were 
shutters with a stick to keep them open. I'm a bit vague on how we sterilized the gauze and linen 
but it seems to me it was done in pressure cookers operated by kerosene. The instruments were 
sterilized by placing them in a foot tub filled with lysol, then rinsed in alcohol. The period of 
sterilization depended on how fast they were needed. As the patients were brought in they were 
assigned to a table by Dr. Weinstein of the Army Medical Corps. The team assigned to that table 
took care of the patient regardless of what type of surgery was indicated. 


Casualties were heavy and the operating room was an extremely busy place. 

We got there on December 24th. On January 23, 1942, Camp Limay moved to Little 
Baguio farther down the peninsula. We had two meals a day: 9 a.m. and 4 p.m. The wards were 
just concrete slabs with corrugated roofs. They were open on the sides. The operating room was 
on a little knoll. 

On March 30, the hospital was bombed, even though the warehouse on the beach had a 
big red cross. 

You were there when the bombs dropped. 

Are you kidding? Outside the operating room was a bench. I almost killed myself trying 
to get under that bench. 

Did you hear the planes coming? 

Yes. The alarm would sound and then you could hear the bombs coming down— a 
whistling sound. On April 7 the Japanese apologized. It had been a mistake. That hospital was 
right next door to the ammunition dump. 

I imagine there were killed and wounded. 

Oh, yes. Every operating table would be filled. They would come in from the field all 
dirty. You did what you could. There were lice; I kept my hair covered all the time. He did a lot 
of leg amputations because we had a lot of gas gangrene out there. I remember one patient we 
were operating on. Dr. Smith didn't want to sew him back up. He had died. I remember telling 
him that I didn't want him to do that if an5l;hing happened to me. He said, "I'll sew him up just to 
shut you up." We were washing the dirty dressings that they used during an operation. We would 
wash them out and refold and sterilize them and use them again. 

The operating theater and everything were right out there in the open? No screens 
or anything? 

No. It was just the wards that were open. The OR was in a building. It was at Limay 
where we had the long row of tables. At Little Baguio it was in a building. I can't remember 
exactly how many operating tables we had. As you walked in, there was a setup for ear, nose, and 

What were you eating? 

I remember Dr. Fraley would go down to Mariveles scrounging for food. One time he 
came back with lemon powder. After that, everything was lemon. After I got home I didn't want 
any lemon. 

When did you write this document? (examining the paper she is reading from) It's 
dated November 26, 1975. 

Yes. I've added on to it from time to time when I would get some other document, like 
Sartin's diary. 


You said the Japanese apologized after the attack on Little Baguio. 

That was on March 30. On April 7, the following week, they bombed us again. It was 
terrible. By that time, they had stopped advancing for awhile. Things were kind of quiet at the 
front lines. But we were getting a lot of patients with malaria, dysentary, all that. We ran out of 
beds. You'd go to bed at night and when you awoke the next morning you'd get out there and 
there would be all these two or three-decker bunks made of wood and patients in them. There 
wasn't much surgery going on, but the nurses taking care of the sick were very busy. 

When Dr. Smith was operating. Dr. Fraley got the job of being an assistant to the colonel 
in charge of the whole outfit, COL Duckworth. He would go to the Navy facility down at 
Mariveles and scrounge instruments and whatever. The Canopus was there and the men aboard 
would make things we needed in the shops on the ship. 

The second time we were bombed, they hit one of the wards. There were patients who 
were tied in traction. The nurses had to cut the ropes so they could fall to the deck. There were 
pajamas in the treetops. During this time we were not busy in the operating room. The Army 
nurses were unhappy because the operating room nurses weren't working as hard as they were. 
We really didn't have a chief nurse there with us. Anyway, they got talking about naming 
somebody to be the head nurse to make all the rules or decisions. How do you do that? In the 
Army and the Navy, it's usually the senior nurse that gets the job. Well you would die laughing. 
Who was the senior nurse? I was. Can you imagine what would have happened? There would 
have been another war. Well, they finally appointed somebody from the other hospital up at 
Cabcaben that was out in the open. Our hospital was intended to be the operating unit. We would 
then ship them up there for convalescing. 

So, you didn't get on that well with the Army nurses. You kept to yourself? 

That's right. I always did. 

You mentioned earlier, before we had the tape recorder on, that your relations with 
your fellow Navy nurses were strained at some point. Was that after the war? 

Yes. After the war. Once I left, that was it. When they came home, I wrote to some of 
them but never got an answer. A lot of it stemmed from the time I got promoted and made junior 
grade. I was a chief nurse. 

When was this? 

Right after I came home. I jumped over a lot of nurses that had been in for 15 years. The 
ones that were jumped over were not very happy. 

Let's go back to Little Baguio. At some point, there was not a lot of surgery going 
on. How long were you there? This was in April '42. 

We were bombed for the second time on April 7th. On the 8th, we were transferred to 
Corregidor. That's when the front lines collapsed. 

How did you get there? 

I don't remember what kind of boat it was, probably one of the things that used to ply 


between Corregidor and Canacao. Anyway, it was after supper. We ate at 4 o'clock. About 8 
o'clock they told us to take what we had— and we didn't have much— and put us on buses. I left Dr. 
Smith and Dr. Fraley there. Later on, Dr. Smith showed up on Corregidor; Dr. Fraley didn't. I 
think I had all I owned in a pillowcase. To get to Mariveles, they had a road they called the Zig 
Zag trail, with a dropoff on both sides. We met the fellows coming up, going to the front lines. 
You know that picture of me in the coveralls? 

Wasn't that picture taken much later on when you were on the Relief? 

Yes. The picture of me is on the Relief hut those coveralls were made for us at Little 
Baguio. The Quartermaster Corps made those for us. Anyway, we got down to the dock at 
Mariveles and we had to stay there for awhile waiting for a boat. Some of the men that were there 
asked us where we were from. They were shocked to find us nurses. Finally when the boat 
arrived, we got on. It must have been a ferry. I remember sitting in the passageway on a wicker 
chair. I was carrying my camera; I never gave that up and brought it home with me. They were 
shooting back and forth over us. When we got to Corregidor I don't think the people there knew 
we were coming because that night we had to sleep two in a bunk. 

I remember the following morning, the Army chief nurse came to me. She took me out to 
what we called the hospital exit to show me what Bataan looked like with the ammunition dumps 
going up. I felt real bad because I knew one of the officers that was left there to do the job. 

What did you see when you looked across at Bataan? 

Fireworks. You wouldn't believe. They had bombs and ever5l;hing. The Army nurses still 
over there were further up the peninsula and they were being evacuated too but they didn't get to 
Corregidor until the next day. I was less scared on Bataan than I was on Corregidor. When the 
Japanese bombed, the whole place just shook. 

You were in the Malinta Tunnel? 

Yes. We were in the hospital tunnel. The Malinta Tunnel ran like this [gesturing] straight 
through and the laterals went off it. When you went into the hospital lateral it was like this 
[gesturing]. At the end of this would be another lateral. The main tunnel was where Mac Arthur 
and Wainwright had their headquarters. 

Did you ever see MacArthur while you were on Corregidor? 

No. I never laid eyes on the bugger. He was egotistical. 

Did you work in the hospital there until you were evacuated? 

I didn't do much work when I got to Corregidor because I had dysentery. Of course, the 
Army was in charge so Dr. Smith wasn't working either. I remember only doing one amputation 
with him. 

Where did you live there? 

Off the hospital lateral were these other laterals. One was the nurse's quarters. Another 
was the mess hall. Another was the operating room. 


So you had laterals off laterals. 

Yes. It was not a clean tunnel. It was just rock. 

You were over there at least a month. 

We went on the April 8th and left on May 3rd. 

And while you were there the Japanese were bombing and shelling constantly. It 
must have been bedlam in that tunnel. Did you ever get out of the tunnel? 

You would try to get out at night. The fellow I told you was responsible for blowing up 
the ammunition dump, well he finally showed up. 

How did you get selected to be evacuated from Corregidor? 

I don't know how I was picked. I remember the planes came in first to evacuate people. 
(Reading from document) Two Navy PBYs took several Army nurses and 15 other passengers on 
April 29th.) 

You were being treated to this terrific bombardment every single day and then one 
day they come to you and say "By the way, we're taking you out of here." Is that how it 

Two PBYs came in first and they took some nurses on it. How they picked them, I don't 
know. We were called to the mess hall and told we were going to be leaving that night. They 
stressed that weight didn't matter as much as size. All I had was a duffel bag. I always said that I 
didn't want to go out of there on an airplane. I would rather go by submarine. We were dreaming 
that that's exactly what was going to happen. 

What happened then? 

They told us we would meet after dark in front of Wainwright's headquarters. But then 
the Japanese started shelling us so they canceled us. We were told to meet I think 2 or 3 hours 
later. Your name was called and you stepped out of the crowd because everybody was gathered 
around to see this. Wainwright shook your hand and wished you Godspeed and he said, "Tell 
them how it is out here." And then I got in a car and they took us out of the tunnel down to the 
dock. Everything was pitch-black, just some trees standing with no leaves, no nothing, charred. 

When we got down there we got on a boat that was even smaller than the one that took us 
to Corregidor. Then we shoved off. We had to go through our own mine fields to get to the 
submarine. We learned later that it was taking us so long to get out there that the submarine 
wasn't sure Corregidor hadn't already fallen. Finally we saw this dark shape and we came 
alongside of it. You could hear the slapping of the water between the two objects. Then someone 
said, "Get your foot over the rail." And then someone just pulled me, and then the first thing I 
knew I was going down the hatch. I got down there awfully fast. (Reading from document) On 
May 3rd we were evacuated from Corregidor. There were six Army officers, six Navy officers, 
eleven Army nurses, and one Navy nurse. There was also one civilian woman, and two 
stowaways— one Navy electrician's mate and one who was with the Army transport. 


What do you remember about your 17-day voyage on the Spearfish (SS-190)? 

When they first said 17 days, I thought I couldn't make it. But I did. When we first got 
aboard I was in the control room. Everything was lighted up and there were all these valves and 
what have you. They took us into the officer's mess. That's where we sat and they gave us tea and 
chocolate cake. We hadn't seen chocolate cake and tea in a long time. The chiefs gave up their 
quarters for us. It was just a cabin with a sink in it. Four of us would go to sleep in a hot bunk. 
You know what a hot bunk is? 

Someone gets out and someone immediately gets in. 

Our luggage we brought with us was on the deck in that same room. I was one of the four 
picked to go to bed right away. The next morning when my 8 hours were up four others went to 
sleep. You just had to kill time any way you could. Most of our time was spent in the crew's 
mess. Someone had a victrola that was playing all the time. The crew would come with 
magazines they had stashed away someplace. We would sit and talk. And of course, the boys 
loved it. The crew was fed first. Anything they served was wonderful for us. We hadn't seen food 
like that. They gave us one bucket for four of us when we went to bed. And that was for bathing 
and washing. Of course, if you went to the john you had to have an escort. Down in that 
submarine, the only thing you heard was the sound of the screws turning. You know, after a 
while the gals were cooking for the boys. 

They initiated us when we went under the equator. 1 had just gotten up and 1 had to stand 
in a pan of water or something. 

You know, while we were on that submarine we remained submerged during the day and 
at dusk we would surface to charge our batteries. When we came up we came up at an angle like 
this (gesturing). And then someone opened a hatch and we felt this gush of nice fresh air come 
through. We had hardly done this when whish, down we went again. Well, that was an 
experience. They thought they sighted something. Everj^hing was turned off and everybody was 
sitting around doing nothing. You could watch the men. Those who had shirts on you could just 
see those shirts gradually turning from tan to brown with perspiration. We must have been 
submerged for several hours just barely crawling. But everything turned out okay. 

What happened when they found the stowaways? 

They turned them over to the authorities when we got into Fremantle [Australia]. 
What do you remember about Fremantle? 

When we got in, everybody from the admiral down was there. The Navy had a hotel 
where people stayed and that's where they put us up, the Navy wife and I. And the Army just took 
their nurses. I saw some of them when we were going home. 

How long were you there? 

Not very long. We were going to stay. Do you know who Dr. Wassell is? 
Yes. Corydon Wassell. 


He was the one who was kind of taking care of Peggy and me. 

Peggy was the civilian wife. 


Dr. Wassell was a legend.^ 

So am I. 

That's right. You're both legends. 

One day we were invited out to dinner at the house of one of the admiral's staff. Oh, how 
they were living it up. I can't remember what I had to eat but they did offer us champaign. Li 
Australia they have a custom. Early in the morning they bring in a cup of tea and bread and butter 
and put it in your room when you wake up. Well, I made the mistake of drinking the tea after the 
champaign we had and I'll tell you that my head spun round and round. I never knew that that 
could happen to you. 

You know, a bath was what we wanted the most when we got to Australia. Even before 
we got off that submarine, each nurse got a bucket of water to go into the John and take a shower. 
If you don't think that was a treat. It was wonderful. 

Back to Australia. One day, I realized that I had just had it. I wanted to go home. Nobody 

So you didn't have any official duties while you were there. 

No. I don't know how soon after I said that that arrangements were made for me to fly to 
Melbourne to get the West Point (AP-23) troopship back. The Navy really took good care of me. 
When we got on that ship, they gave me just about the best stateroom in the house. 

Did that ship come into New York? 

Yes. We went through the [Panama] Canal again. And we had no escort with us either. In 
Australia, the paymaster had me list all the things I had left behind in clothes and things. I forget 
how much money they gave me. But I went out and bought a dress, a coat, and a hat. When I got 
off that ship in New York, I was a civilian. I wasn't in uniform. But some of the Army nurses 
who had been on that submarine insisted on wearing those dungarees they had gotten from the 
men on Bataan. 

But you still had those dungaree coveralls they had made for you at Little Baguio. 

Yes. I guess you would call it a jumpsuit. 

When did you get back to New York? 

In July, just before the Fourth. I think I went to the Bureau [of Medicine and Surgery] on 
the Fourth. 

^ LCDR Corydon Wassell, MC, USNR, was famous for his heroic care of wounded during and 
after the disastrous early battles of the Java Sea. 


What do you remember about that? Did you see the Surgeon General. 

No. I didn't see the Surgeon General but I did see Miss Dauser [Sue Dauser, wartime 
Director of the Navy Nurse Corps]. All I could think of was all the time they spent eating. 

At the Bureau? 

Anywhere. My sister and I went from New York to Washington and we got there at 
lunchtime. Everyone was pulling out their little brown bags. It seemed like you just had your 
breakfast and here they were having a coffee break and then lunch, then a coffee break. 

So you saw Miss Dauser. 

Yes. That's the time they were trying to arrange for me to meet Eleanor Roosevelt but 
they didn't succeed. We then came home to Exeter. I had a very short vacation. The people of my 
town were quite proud of me. They had a parade and a dinner at the high school. And they 
presented me with a gift from the town and then I had to go back on duty. 

Where did you go? 

To Bethesda. I was there when Franklin Roosevelt broke the champagne bottle on the 


That would have been on the 31st of August of '42 when they officially opened the 

I was there sitting in the second or third row up front on the left. 

I have a photograph of that with the President standing at the podium outside. 
Where did you work at the hospital? 

hi the sick officer's quarters. 

How long were you at Bethesda? 

A very short time. This is where I got pushed around. There were a lot of senior nurses 
there but I was a chief nurse like the rest of them so they had to consider me. I alternated on SOQ 
with another nurse. That was when the public relations place downtown was shipping me here 
and there selling war bonds, going to factories. 

And you made speeches. 

Oh, yes. 

When did you get your Legion of Merit? 

I didn't get that at Bethesda. I got it when I was at the dispensary in New Orleans. 
Were you on a speaking tour there? 

No. I had been transferred there. I finally went to Miss Dauser and said, "Look, if you 
don't want me in a psychiatric ward, you had better get me off this rat race. I would go to work in 


the mornings, come off duty, have my bag packed, go downtown to the PR place, get my ticket 
from them to where ever I was going, and then I would ride at night and get there the next 
morning and go to somebody's breakfast, be interviewed. And I'm not a speaker. 

You were everywhere, all over the place. 

Oh, yes. The other staff nurses thought that I was having a ball just riding around going to 
parades and banquets. That wasn't a ball, not to me. 

When did you pose for that famous portrait that Albert Murray did? 

It happened through the PR group. They were pleased with my presentations. I could 
never just get up and talk. They would write a speech for me. And I would practice enough so 
that I could present it the right way. I could get the women in the audience to cry. I used to say 
that if you could do that, you were all right. Did you ever hear of Miss Lally? 



She was the chief nurse on the Solace at Pearl Harbor. 

Right. She came to relieve Mrs. Carver at Bethesda just before I left and she used to say 
that that wasn't the way to do it. 

Who was Mrs. Carver? 

She was the chief nurse. And Grace Lally used to say that you should end a speech with a 
poem. She used to have to give speeches too. 

So at some point, they decided they needed a portrait of you. 

Albert Murray was doing portraits of some of the admirals. 

Where was the portrait done? 

At the Corcoran [Gallery]. 

You know, that portrait is still hanging in the Pentagon? 


How many times did you go to the Corcoran to pose for him? 

I can't remember the number of times. I think it was every day. I was on afternoon duty so 
I'd go down in the morning. I'd take a trolley or bus from Bethesda. 

You left Bethesda and went to New Orleans. 

Yes. And that's where Admiral Bennett presented the Legion of Merit to me. 
Was he the CO of the hospital? 

No. He was the CO of the district. The dispensary was in town off Charles Street. 


How long were you there? 

I wasn't there very long because from there they sent me to Great Lakes. I was an assistant 
chief nurse there because they always had these older nurses that were chief nurses. And I wasn't 
there very long before I got orders for the Relief (AH-l). 

Where did you get the ship? 

In San Francisco. 

That would have been late '44? 

I remember that on April the first of '45 I arrived at Buckner Bay in Okinawa because 
that's when they made the landings. 

What were your duties on the ship? 

I was chief nurse. 

Then, you were in charge of all the nurses on the ship? 

What do you remember about going to the Relief? 

When I got out there I was at Treasure Island temporarily while the ship was being 
overhauled. They were putting bunks out on the deck and loading it with supplies. 

There's that famous picture of you taken on the Relief in the jump suit they made 
for you in Little Baguio. 


When did you actually board the ship? 

[Reading from notes] I actually got to San Francisco on November 3, 1944. The ship was 
being overhauled from November to February. We left for Ulithi on February 13 and arrived 
there on March 5, 1945. On March 11a suicide plane crashed on the deck of the Randolph 
(CV-15). On April 1 we invaded Okinawa. The next day the i?e/ze/ arrived along with the 
Comfort (AH-6). At 6:10 a single engine Japanese plane crossed her bow at about 5 miles, made 
a 10 degree turn and approached the Relief and Comfort from bow on. The destroyer Wickes 
(DD-578), on picket duty off Okinawa, came to our rescue. As the enemy plane continued 
straight toward the Relief the destroyer's gunners placed close bursts of anti-aircraft fire so near 
as to rock the enemy's wings. This came just as the aircraft released a bomb, causing it to fall a 
few feet wide of the Relief. A few hours later, another enemy plane flew over for a few minutes 
but made no attack. During the day the ship anchored off the invasion beach and deployed to sea 
at night illuminated like a Christmas tree. On April 10th we went to Saipan with 556 casualties. 
On April 26th we went to Tinian with 613 casualties. 

On April 19th the Comfort was attacked by a kamikaze with some loss of life. We 
alternated with the Comfort taking these patients wherever they were going. 


When did you write these notes? 

I don't know when I did this. 

You were at Okinawa during the invasion. What do you remember about that? 

When we stopped retiring out to sea at night all lit up, we would stay where we were 
anchored ready to pick up casualties. Every time the kamikazes would come we would get the 
alarm over the loud speaker. They would say "Kamaretta red, smoke boat make smoke." And 
then this boat would fill the bay with white smoke so the kamikazes couldn't see. 

Did you see any of these kamikaze attacks at Okinawa? 


Where did you go from there? 

(Again reading from notes) In July we left Saipan for San Pedro Bay, Leyte, and served as 
a fleet base hospital in the Philippines until the end of the war. August 15th was V-J Day and that 
was a day! We had just gone up on deck for a movie when it was announced. And that bay lit up 
that night like you've never seen. The sky was bright, everybody firing something or another. It 
was beautiful. I remember standing at the rail with somebody. The person said, "Well, maybe 
now we can go home." And I said, "No, I don't think so. I think we have to go get the war 
prisoners first." I was still thinking about Dr. Carey Smith and Dr. Fralich. So, sure enough, that's 
what we got orders for. 

To pick up the POWs. 

(Reading from notes) So, on the 28th [August] we were enroute via Okinawa for Dairen, 
Manchuria to pick up the prisoners of war. We were escorted by the destroyer escort McNulty 
(DE-581) and the Eugene Elmore (DE-686). We picked up a Chinese man and woman. The next 
day the Relief v^diS guided past 10 floating mines. One crewmember of the McNulty was injured 
by shrapnel and transferred to the Relief hut he died. At 9:18 we docked with no help from 
anybody. It was not till the 1 1th [September] that the prisoners come aboard, 753 of them. That 
was really something. 

First of all, music was blaring from the ship and everything was all lighted up. Well, they 
didn't let them come right aboard. They had to be deloused first— fumigated and then given 
showers. Then they came aboard at 2050. 1 remember the supply officer who was in charge of 
food, came to me and said that the senior medical officer was going to give them sandwiches and 
I said, "Listen, if you can't give them a steak dinner and ice cream or something, we ought to be 
ashamed of ourselves." They would stand in line waiting from one meal to the next and they ate 
bread. God, they ate bread! The men were up on the SOQ (Sick Officers Quarters). The galley 
was in the middle and my office was to the left of it. Because all the bread and butter were on my 
desk, they reached in to get bread and butter, then with their trays they would go through the 
galley to load up, and then go out to their bunks. 

Those guys must have been in terrible condition. 


No, not really and I'll tell you why. The POWs had to come down to the docks from 
Mukden by train, but the Japanese had blown up the rails. And so there were food drops to the 
men. So, they didn't look too bad. 

Dr. Fraley and Dr. Carey Smith were with that group? 

Yes. In fact, we had one Army doctor who came ahead of them. I packed a box for Dr. 
Fraley and Dr. Smith—candy bars and oranges, and I don't know what else—for the doctor to take 
back to them. 

So it must have been quite a reunion. 

Oh, yes it was. So many of the 753 people we brought out were the ones who started the 
American defenders of Bataan and Corregidor. 

You brought them back all the way to San Francisco? 

No. We put them ashore in Okinawa. In fact, when we came into Okinawa, we couldn't 
land because of a typhoon and we had to go out to sea again. That was on September 12th. We 
came in on the 18th and disembarked the prisoners. I don't know how they came home from 

Did you make another run then? 

No. (Reading from notes) On the 26th we were underway for Taku, China and arrived on 
September 30th, where we provided medical facilities for the First Marine Division assigned to 
occupation duty in north China. We continued there until October 24th and then we were ordered 
to evacuate patients to the west coast of the U.S. We picked up our patients at Tsingtao on 
November 1 st and 2nd, and more at Okinawa on November 5th and the 8th. We then went to 
Guam to pick up more on November 13th and 14th, and then sailed for San Francisco with 361 
passengers and 386 patients. We arrived on November 30th, 1945. 

That was your last run on the Relief! 

Yes. I was relieved when I got back. The Relief made only one more trip to Japan and 
then she was decommissioned at the Norfolk Naval Shipyard on May 11, 1946 and sold for scrap 
on March 23, 1948. 

Where did you go after you came back to San Francisco? 

I went to Brooklyn, NY. I was there a short time when I requested occupational therapy 
school and it was granted. So I went to the Philadelphia School of Occupational Therapy. It was, 
I think, an 18-month course. I was then assigned to the Naval Hospital in Houston, TX, and was 
there about a year when they transferred the hospital to the Veterans Administration. From there I 
went to Long Beach, CA. I was there for about a year and then that hospital was transferred to the 
Veterans Administration. I was also at Camp Pendleton and Newport. 

Did you ever run into the other Philippine nurses during that later part of your 


I was in California after I retired and I think I saw Helen Gorzalanski. When I was in 
Philadelphia, one of the doctors told me that Mary Chapman had died. The first time I saw 
Dorothy [Still] was after I retired and had gone out to San Diego for a Defenders [of Bataan and 
Corregidor] convention. One of the nurses I had worked with in Texas had a cookout and that's 
where I saw Dorothy. I never saw [Edwina] Todd or [Bertha] Evans, or [Goldia] O'Haver. I had 
written to Bertha when they first got back and I did get a reply. Helen Gorzalanski Hunter died in 
December of 1971. Mary Chapman Hayes died in 1970. Nobody knows what happened to Eldene 
Page. And then on Guam, you had Marion Olds as chief nurse and Leona Jackson, Doris Yetter; 
she's in California. 

She's still around? 

As far as I know.